
Tension flared on ABC’s “The View” on Monday when co-host Whoopi Goldberg ripped up a note passed to her by fellow co-host Sunny Hostin during a live discussion about President Donald Trump’s recent “60 Minutes” interview.
The moment unfolded after Goldberg made a joke referencing an autopen — a mechanical device used for signing documents — in relation to a presidential pardon.
The segment began with a discussion about President Trump’s pardon of Changpeng “CZ” Zhao, the founder of Binance, one of the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchanges.
Zhao, who had been convicted of violating U.S. anti-money-laundering laws, received a pardon earlier this month.
Hostin criticized the pardon and raised questions about the president’s comments during the “60 Minutes” interview, in which Trump said he was unaware of the details surrounding Zhao’s case.
“The Trump family has made about $1.8 billion, profited off of this government and he said that Joe Biden didn’t know who he was pardoning using an autopen. How come you don’t know who this guy is?” Hostin asked.
Goldberg responded jokingly, saying, “Because he used an autopen.”
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Later in the broadcast, Hostin wrote a note and passed it to Goldberg, apparently asking her to clarify the comment.
Goldberg looked at the note before addressing the audience directly. “What the hell? What?” she said, holding up the card.
“We don’t know if Trump used an autopen to pardon, it was a joke!”
Goldberg proceeded to tear up the note on camera as the studio audience reacted.
Hostin repeated that the show did not know whether President Trump had used an autopen for the pardon, and Goldberg appeared visibly frustrated by the need for clarification.
“I’m sorry. The hardest thing about this job now is no one understands nuance,” Goldberg said.
“You know when you hear a joke, when somebody is fooling around, when they’re not saying something specific. Especially on this show. I’m very specific when I’m pointing stuff out. When I’m making jokes, you know when I’m making jokes. This is ridiculous.”
The View’s Whoopi Goldberg loses her mind after she’s handed a note to correct one of her lies that President Trump used the autopen to pardon individuals. “What the h*ll. It was a joke.”
*Rips up the note*
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The audience applauded as Goldberg continued her remarks, shifting the discussion to immigration policy under the Trump administration.
“One thing that really upsets me about all of this is that when people do it legally, everybody b—-ed and moaned and said ‘they are not doing it legally,’ so people are showing up when they’re supposed to be showing up at court, and you’re scooping them up for immigrant checks,” Goldberg said.
She went on to criticize the administration’s enforcement actions.
“And this is how you treat them. So how should we believe anything you’re saying when we saw how folks in Chicago were treated over the weekend? We saw that. We see what’s going on. We see what happens when children are in court by themselves. Come on now, you know exactly what you’re doing, and you seem to be having a good time while you’re doing it.”
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