
Donald Trump Jr. and journalist John Solomon discussed what Solomon described as newly uncovered intelligence intercepts involving Ukrainian officials and a proposed use of U.S. aid funds, raising questions about how foreign assistance may have been discussed in connection with domestic political activity.
Trump Jr. opened the discussion by referencing Solomon’s reporting and asking for further details about the alleged findings.
“You broke this incredible story about NSA intercepts showing Ukrainian officials basically discussing a plot to funnel back millions in American aid money back to the Biden 2024, campaign through, you know, none other than USAID. I mean, really, I guess it shouldn’t surprise us anymore, but it should shock us, you know? Can you walk us through it? And you know, what else we need to know?” Trump Jr. said.
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Solomon responded by providing context he said was necessary to understand the claims, pointing to past interactions between Ukrainian officials and U.S. political figures.
“Yeah, let’s give everybody a little quick history lesson, because the context of this is important. In 2016 we know that the USM, the Ukrainian embassy in the United States, was advocating for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. The ambassador even wrote an op ed doing so in the period before that, they were enriching the Ukrainian gas company Burisma was enriching Joe Biden’s son, Hunter. So Ukrainians generally have had a leftward lurch in their support in the American political system, sometimes very overtly,” Solomon said.
He added that those relationships had been previously disputed but later confirmed in various public discussions.
“Turns out, it was all true. It wasn’t a conspiracy theory. Hunter Biden and the Democratic Party were deeply entangled with the Ukrainian government, Ukrainian businesses, and we lived through that,” Solomon said.
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Solomon then described what he said were intercepted communications from 2022 and early 2023, during a period when he said President Joe Biden’s fundraising was facing challenges.
“Joe Biden’s in the White House. And in 2022 and early 23 his fundraising is lagging, even though he’s the incumbent. He’s got the problems with the Afghanistan withdrawal, questions about his mental acuity, enormous unpopularity, particularly when it comes to an open border,” Solomon said.
According to Solomon, the intercepts involved conversations among Ukrainian officials and referenced discussions with personnel connected to the U.S. Agency for International Development.
“And so it’s at that moment when NSA guys with headphones on are listening and they intercept a series of conversations. Some of these are probably on email, and it’s a senior government official in the Ukrainian government of President Zelensky talking about a plot that has been discussed with USAID workers, our foreign aid agency workers in Kyiv, to give a two, $300 million Clean Energy grant to Ukraine,” Solomon said.
Trump Jr. responded by questioning the feasibility of such a project under current conditions.
“They’re not building solar panels when you’re getting bombed everyday. It’s probably not great use of a panel,” Trump Jr. said.
Solomon continued by describing what he characterized as the intent behind the proposed funding.
“A complete ruse, and they even say so. Listen, the intercept suggests that this is not going to be a justified project, but you’ll spend the money, and then by the time they discover it, it won’t be recoverable,” Solomon said.
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