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Candace Owens Refuses Walk Back of Claims After TPUSA Meeting with Erika Kirk [WATCH]

Candace Owens said she has not backed away from any of her suspicions surrounding the killing of Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk, despite a lengthy private meeting with Turning Point leadership and Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk, as reported by the Gateway Pundit.

Owens addressed the issue during a Tuesday episode of The Candace podcast, where she discussed her recent meeting with Erika Kirk, Turning Point USA CEO and widow of Charlie Kirk.

Owens described the meeting as lasting four and a half hours and taking place earlier this week.

Owens opened the episode by greeting viewers with “Shabbat Shalom” and “Happy Hanukkah,” followed by a series of remarks she framed as trolling, including statements such as “Tucker Carlson is Adolf Hitler, and TikTok does need to be purchased by the Mossad.”

Candace Owens speaks at the Turning Point USA at Clemson University event titled “All Lives Matter” in Memorial Auditorium in Clemson Tuesday, April 4, 2023. Turning Point Usa At Clemson University Candace Owens

She then addressed public reaction to a social media post she made following the meeting.

“Okay, you guys are crazy. You guys are absolutely crazy. The amount of people who attacked me for sending out a tweet being like, ‘Hey, I’m good, I’m alive, we had a very productive conversation,’ and they were like, ‘She got the call. She got the call. She’s betrayed us. She’s doing something else. I can’t believe it. This has all just been a show,’” Owens said.

“Calm down. Okay. What do you think happened? Erica said, ‘Stop.’ And then I was frozen for four and a half, four hours and 30 minutes, just like as I just put all of these talking points into my head?” she continued.

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Owens said the meeting took place on Monday and replaced a planned public debate that did not occur.

In an X post after the meeting, Owens described it as “an extremely productive 4 1/2 hour meeting that I think we both feel should have taken place a lot earlier than it did.”

The meeting followed a public dispute between Owens and Erika Kirk.

Erika Kirk appeared on Fox News last week and accused Owens of “making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single episode, going after the people that I love because somehow they’re in on this.”

Charlie Kirk’s widow Erika Kirk takes the stage during the memorial service honoring Charlie Kirk at State Farm Stadium in Glendale on Sept. 21, 2025.

Owens responded by calling the interview a “performance,” saying it “unmasked herself and the entire TPUSA machine in one interview.”

The dispute continued Saturday when Erika Kirk participated in a town hall with CBS editor-in-chief Bari Weiss.

During that appearance, Erika Kirk said she was concerned that theories surrounding her husband’s killing could affect the jury pool in the case against Tyler Robinson, who has been accused in connection with Charlie Kirk’s death. She referenced claims involving Egyptian planes.

Owens responded by saying Erika Kirk was “completely dodging the question by confronting a claim that we never made,” adding, “Literally NO ONE accused Erika or Charlie of flying on Egyptian planes.”

During Tuesday’s podcast, Owens reiterated her focus on the planes.

“I am certain that these Egyptian planes are incredibly shady, and that they were, in fact, tracking Turning Point USA Faith, broader events,” Owens said. “Of course, Erika was at some of them, Charlie was at some of them, but it is– the pattern here is undeniable.”

She said she plans to present “overwhelming evidence” that the planes “regularly fly in and out of Israel” and that they are “turning their transponder off each time that they do it.”

Owens said she entered the meeting unsure of what to expect and acknowledged that Turning Point leadership raised concerns about her past statements.

“Erika was very clear that they were sort of most upset with what I— obviously in a bit of a fever pitch— when I tweeted that it was a God-forsaken company and people should not give money to it, and I have to own that that’s aggressive,” Owens said.

“That is actually aggressive.”

Owens also said Erika Kirk addressed what she described as “miscommunications” coming from various people at Turning Point USA and denied claims that Charlie Kirk sent messages the night before his death predicting he would be killed, a claim Erika Kirk previously rejected during an interview with Glenn Beck, stating, “I have his cell phone,” and he “didn’t say that.”

Despite the meeting, Owens said she remains unconvinced.

“I did not at all recant any of my suspicions, and I understand people disagree with me about particular people at Turning Point USA,” she said.

Owens cited several unresolved issues, including Terrell Farnsworth removing SD cards from cameras after the shooting, statements from Turning Point leaders, the presence of Pastor Rob McCoy and his son Mikey McCoy at the time of the shooting, and questions surrounding Tyler Robinson’s role.


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