Hoover Institute Senior Fellow Victor Davis Hanson told SiriusXM’s Megyn Kelly on Wednesday that Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent are the two people he believes are “articulating” the Trump administration’s “counterrevolution.”
Both Rubio and Bessent have been key players in President Donald Trump’s second term agenda. Appearing on “The Megyn Kelly Show,” Hanson said Rubio and Bessent have impressed him.
“When you look at who is really articulating this counterrevolution, it is Scott Bessent in economics and Marco Rubio in State,” Hanson said. “Without those two guys, I think they’d be in trouble because they have a reassuring, calm [demeanor], but they’re very tough, and they don’t back down, and they’re not afraid of controversy. When you sent Rubio down to Panama, after all the media was going crazy [saying] ‘We’re going to invade Panama,’ and he went down there, and he just solved the problem. [He] soothed everything over, but he did not back down.”
“I do think they have so many balls in the air,” Hanson added. “They’ve got the Ukraine war. They’ve got the Iranian nuclear negotiations. They’ve got the hostages with Hamas. I think they need to — I know that [Steve] Witkoff is a special envoy, but no special [envoy] can be doing all of that. It would be very wise, I think, if all of that was bundled back into the State Department and Rubio himself.”
While testifying before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Tuesday, Rubio snapped back on Democrat Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen after the lawmaker accused Rubio of denying illegal migrant Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia due process. (RELATED: ‘Unlike We’ve Ever Seen Before’: Mark Halperin Makes Bold Prediction About Who Will Be On 2028 GOP Ticket)
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The exchange between the two got heated after Van Hollen told Rubio that he “regrets” voting him in for secretary of state. Rubio heard Van Hollen’s words and took them to mean that Rubio is “doing a good job.”
Hanson went on to call Rubio one of the “most powerful” secretaries of state.
“Let Rubio pick the special envoys and operate. Just outsource this, because he’s very competent, and he’s on the same page with Trump,” Hanson said. “I think the American people feel that when he is conducting 100 percent of our foreign policy, to the degree that it’s delegated by the president, it’s reassuring. And he doesn’t make slips or gaffes.”
“I understand he’s probably the most powerful secretary of state, given the national security portfolio that we’ve had, in a long time,” Hanson said. “But I wish that these major negotiations — and there’s three or four of them that got global and historical importance — that he was the point man on it. I think that would be wise.”
Bessent has also pushed back against critics. During a House Financial Services Committee hearing on May 7, the Treasury secretary shut down Democratic California Rep. Maxine Waters. Waters, referring to the Department of Government Efficiency, accused Bessent of enabling “strangers” to access his department’s data.
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